While I recognize the imbalance Incursions contribute to, I don't think it's realistic for ccp to get rid of them. Hell, incursions are a cool concept, just badly implemented. I've been taking a semi-break from null due to real life obligations and running incursions with TVP for 2 weeks.

Say that their is little incentive to do anything else is actually wrong, I sold my incursion fit (kept the Mach though) because incursions are so eye bleedingly boring and monotonous I simply can't run another site, even when you contribute by having a roll (I have played sniper anchor and MTAC guy), it's the SAME THING over and over and over again. null anoms are the same, but atleast I can experiment with different ships, come and go when I want and the guys trying to kill you make for interesting times. You get almost none of that in high sec incursions, the only fun to be had is contests and those are rare.

The isk is great, at time we've been on pace to make more than 160 mil per hour (and TVP is great with it's automated waitlist meaning that if you have alts like me, you can do something else in the time it takes you to get invited, they even have an out of game browser alarm that blares at you when you get invited, best thing I've ever seen)

I'm on the record saying that high sec incursions are wrong and bad and they are. I find it irksome that the SAME Machariel that can be used by me to help push a 100+ mil per hour pace farming in an incursion fleet (where only the FC is doing any actual thinking/playing) can make AT BEST 750-75 mil per hour farming anomalies in a null sec system that someone had to fight over, conquer and than pay to upgrade including moving a huge ass IHUB.

And all of that is still true, I simply don't think people should be making that much combat pve isk in high sec, it cheapens ALL pve outside of high sec with the exception of high end wormholes (which are sill balanced because once those WH anoms are gone, they are gone, incursion sites keep respawning till the incursion is gone)

But what is also true is that if you re-nerf incursions (they got nerfed in the past), people just won't do them and it's wasted content/dev time. It's a hell of a wall CCP painted themselves into, damned if you do, damnded if you don't. Personally I'd leave incursions alone with the possible exception of lowering the isk pay out and upping the LP pay out.

Or drastically drop their payouts not the point of killing them but to a more balanced level compared to other highsec activities.

Highsec Incursions payout WAY too much for the risk and time you take.

Many people run incursions to plex accounts log out for the month.

Theres little to no incentive to do anything else in the game once you start running incursions, you wont stop, and you will not do anything else other than your casual pvp on a random alt when the opportunity arises.

Incursions are a decease, they are killing/killed a major part of the game, took the need of doing and trying different things to make isks.

Hell theres not even a reason to leave highsec anymore, whats the incentive of null when you can make as much or even more in the safety of highsec?


Please put an end to incursions, its been far too long already, sanshas must go.


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1-Ganking / Interfere with incursioners

Incursions are 5 years old, there is nothing new about them that someone hasn't thought of and tried in the past to successfully gank incursioners and come out in profit. NO, you won't. NO, there isn't a secret way. Or else there would be plenty of other people doing it already, just think about it, you're not Einstein.

Example most recent fail attempt, 40 machariels with smart bombs, not even 1 incursioners dead, gankers lost billions to concord.
Incursioners laughed at you on comms.

2-Make more isks in null / (Insert random wormhole class here)

NO, no you don't.
Let's just leave it like that.
Null and especially wormholes arent nearly as consistent as incursions.
And let's not talk about all the effort, resources and logistics needed, and not mention having to manage capitals in some cases.
Oh and the risk.. I don't even wanna go there.

3-Risk being bling ships

What risk? The fact that you are watching titanic and crying about it and forget to broadcast for shields on time?

Also ships aren't as blingy as they once were. People found the sweet spot and most efficient fits in terms of cost/performance nowadays, and to be honest most of them don't even bother with some of the more expensive modules.

4-Station trading

Been there, done that.
NO you don't make billions upon billions, don't let people fool you with stories.
You need a LOT of effort and work and .01 PvP + being lucky enough there aren't too many traders online to PvP against you.
And if the same quantity of people that run incursions would station trade then you wouldn't even make a penny.
Also it is WAY too much inconsistent ... And yet STILL you won't make more than incursions on your best day.